You think you know how to torture, America? Waterboarding is for schoolchildren. Detainees locked in an internment camp in Iraq are mocking their captors -- members of the Wisconsin National Guard -- with Brett Favre jokes.
Evil bastards!
It all started when the National Guardsmen began decorating their trucks and other areas of Camp Cropper with Packers colors recently. The prisoners picked up on it, did some research (Wiraqipedia?), and began with the Favre barbs. What goes around comes around, I suppose. I blame Dick Cheney.
"They know Favre by name," said First Lieutenant Tim Boehnen, who is from New Richmond, Wis.
"One of the big words they know now is shenanigan. They'll constantly talk about 'Favre shenanigans,' 'He's so good for the Vikings,' and 'The Packers have got to really feel bad about that one.' "
According to Boehnen, it started when troops there started decorating their camp in Packers colors.
"They obviously then started up the conversations, and started talking about Brett Favre. They soon learned about Favre going to the Vikings, and things just started going downhill from there."
Boehnen said soccer is the main sport that detainees pay attention to there, so there's not exactly a Vikings fan club chapter in Iraq.
"They'll hear guards talking about it, and then they pick up a lot of stuff from that, too," said Boehnen. "They're very crafty. They learn different stuff from different ways."
Once they learn a little more about football, they can start increasing the pressure: Like calling for Matt Flynn to replace Aaron Rodgers, or making fun of cheese.
And wait'll they learn that Joseph McCarthy is from Wisconsin. Oops. Do they have Internet access?
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Detainees at Camp in Iraq Use Favre To Tease Wisconsin Soldiers [620 WTMJ]

How is it that these scumbags have access to the internet to begin with?
Obama loves terrorists, so he probably ordered the military to provide them with internet, HDTV, cell phones, and other amenities.
Bob,
It's because we have mastered the art of torture. The Internet is bad for them.
Bob, I only see two scumbag around here.... That'd be you and Steve. They're just detainees. Many of them have not even been charged with a crime. I thought I lived in the land of the free? You make me sick.
You are so right they are scumbugs. They are uneducated, abnormal eaters and are not clean. There country is filthy. Yes, how did they get access to a computer.
You are so right they are scumbugs. They are uneducated, abnormal eaters and are not clean. There country is filthy. Yes, how did they get access to a computer.
They commit acts of terror and have attempted or succeeded in killing American troops overseas.
And you want to whine for them? I hope you get cancer.
Yep, Obama loves terroists. Just like the Bush family loves Saudi's and the bin Ladin family. I bet Steve is some religious nut who actually believes in a guy name jesus and angeles and moses walking on water. Dummy!
The article is making a joke about access to the Internet. They do not have access. The prison guard makes it clear that they are simply picking up information by observing the environment (Packer's decorations) and listening to conversations between the guards.
The stupidity you folks come up with ...
your intellegence is showing NOT.
John, when you die, dress for warm weather. Come to think of it, dress for EXTREMELY warm weather. By the way, Jesus is with a capital "J", angels don't have multiple "e"s in them, and Moses... ahh forget it. You're not intelligent enough to appreciate when someone dies on a cross for your sins anyway. Wonder if they'll have the Internet in hell? You'll be able to read online Bible passages and see what you're missing. Check our Revelations some time...
John, when you die, dress for warm weather. Come to think of it, dress for EXTREMELY warm weather. By the way, Jesus is with a capital "J", angels don't have multiple "e"s in them, and Moses... ahh forget it. You're not intelligent enough to appreciate when someone dies on a cross for your sins anyway. Wonder if they'll have the Internet in hell? You'll be able to read online Bible passages and see what you're missing. Check our Revelations some time...
Actually, Bob (is that your name or what you do with your buddy Steve?) you have no idea why they're detained. I'm guessing you and your wingnut buddies have never served a day. Now, if you want to talk about terrorists how about wingnut Tim McVeigh, or wingnut Eric Rudolf, or the wingnut who shot up that Unitarian Church, or the wingnut who shot that doctor, or the wingnut who shot up the Holocaust museum, or that wingnut who shot the cops in Pittsburg because he thought Obama would take his guns, or the wingnut...
"I hope you get cancer."
Seriously, because I believe in freedom and due process you're wishing cancer upon me? Be careful with your intentions, my friend. It comes back ten-fold.
Not any more uneducated than you are. "They are abnormal eaters and not clean?" You know that from which one of the following 1) random guessing, 2) looking up the information nowhere, or 3) pure stupidity? Oh wait, all three apply.
Yes, yes, my right wing friends! How dare anyone accused of being a terrorist be allowed to speak. They should remain hooded and gagged until their torture sessions begin so that they can name the names of other innocent people who we can then torture into admitting to terrorism based on the color of their skin.
For those of you who are more factually inclined, the article never said they had been given internet access, but made joking references to it. The prisoners seem to have learned about Green Bay from their guards, who came from Green Bay. Obama's socialist plot didn't have anything to do with it.
I'd rather that detainees who are eventually freed after trial left our prisons with a knowledge of football rather than a burning desire to avenge the barbaric torture they suffered, but thats just me.
John #8, you are a sad little man, Moses didn't walk on water, that was Jesus. Before you start throwing out insults make sure you get your facts stratight! You sound very angry and un-happy, I will pray for you. God Bless!
RP you are correct about Bob and Steve, but now Mariann wants in the club. these folks really belong back in Nazi Germany - Conducting wars of imperialism and executing people based on their ethnicity or religious affiliations. Perfect fit and I'm sure if the USA was ever occupied that these same people plus one more who is fixated on sucking would be the first ones out there to suck on the appendages of the occupying forces - that is what they worship. Bigger idiots I have never seen.
You nuts. The author was using SARCASM! The only "net" they have there is the inter-barbed-wire net. I have a relative guarding down there and believe me, they WISHED they could be back in Abu-Ghraib. Putting Fauve down is the closest thing they get to irritating their guards.
I hope you get painful cancer, and have treatment that doesn't work, making your life miserable and pointless (which it already is). Viewing acts of terror in black and white means you're not any more intelligent than they are, which means the only difference between you and them is luckily being born into this country. Not a whole lot to brag about.
I can't believe that is any amount of discomfort over Bret Favre barbs.
Are they not all grown ups?
If they can't take verbal abuse from a prisoner behind bars, they don't belong in a grown up gig.
If they are are Grown ups, then learn a life lesson and don't whine.
This is easy. there are much harder things in life.
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Mariann - in your rant accusing them of being "uneducated" you used "there" instead of "their". Get it right moron.
Why does everyone assume the detainees had internet access? Nowhere in this story was that statement made. Learn to read the whole story and not just the bits in quotes ("wiraqipedia").
Wow...
Mariann Pepitone you know that the same thing they said against the native Americans and African's when the first whites came, they are uneducated, abnormal eaters, and dirty when you demonize an entire culture the messes feel better when the stronger of the countries starts to kill, in slave and take over a land but sorry to say its not always for the best why dont you go over there meet some of the people before you bad mouth them walk a day in there life before you say kill them all
"They'll hear guards talking about it, and then they pick up a lot of stuff from that, too," said Boehnen. "They're very crafty. They learn different stuff from different ways."
Interesting...apparently if someone is a prisoner, or from Iraq, they are considered to be an idiot. What's next? "It is crazy - they know how to count, and and they can tell the difference between a cat and a dog...shifty buggers."
You are such a moron. Everything and anything is Obama's fault. Grow the heck up ... pea brain.
It'd be great if we just killed all of the detainees at Guantanamo. It'd be a great Thanksgiving gift to the USA.
You are brain washed. I hate to break it to ya Florida, there is no god. I believe in science, which continues to disprove the bible. I read the bible, there are some good points in there, but there are nut jobs that interpet it however they see fit. The world is not 2,000+ years old, it is 4.5 billion years old. It was not made in 7 days, it is still evolving just like human beings are. It is human nature to fear the unknown, and there is nothing more unknown than death. So, as humans we created an answer.....the after life. Do you thinks groups who worshiped the moon, the sun or cows thousands of years ago are in "hell?" Organized religion has more blood on their hands than any other organization in the history of man-kind.
Wow. :) The comments section of this was a far more interesting commentary on human nature than the article.
To RP .... "many of the detainees have not even been charged with a crime" - that's right, they were probably out in a battle somewhere trying to sell girlscout cookies. WAKE UP DUMMY !!!!
NO BODY WALKED ON WATER MORON! HAHAHAHAAH If someone told you that you had cancer, you would get a second or third opinion. Yet, when someone tells you jesus walked on water and moses parted the red sea (my bad i always forget tall-tales) you beleive it with no fact. I feel so sorry for you.
Wow. I thought the story was a bit of humorous. Then I read all of the comments. What a bunch of douche bags, on BOTH sides!
Before you comment on other people's intelligence you should look at your own. You believe an all powerful being named God sent his only son, which was him, on a suicide mission, where he didn't acually die, to save humanity from a hell he himself created. Now that is powerful stupidity!
To RP .... "many of the detainees have not even been charged with a crime" - that's right, they were probably out in a battle somewhere trying to sell girlscout cookies. WAKE UP DUMMY !!!!
This is hilarious! What's wrong with all you guys? Jeezus!
Doesn't anybody know that in Wisconsin and Illinois it's the state sport to rag on like that?
That is really funny.
These comments are why the internet exists.
I got nothing to add. I just wanted to be part of the stupidest sports comment chain in history.
Thanks to all!
Good one Florida! Just like Jesus, always threatening people with Hell! Oh, and Revelations! Your mythology frightens me!
what a bunch of nigger lovers. liberal scumbags.
I agree with doug, Everything and anything is Obama's fault.
Thanks Doug!!!
Don't be stupid--read the article. It's making a JOKE...nowhere does it say that detainees have internet access. Seriously?!
Amen brother. p.s. I loved you in "There's Something About Mary"
Oh America why have you fallen into ruins? Why are our people so blind, angry and full of zealot religiosity?
I will tell you because they where told by the Bushes and other soulless neo Cons that America is Freedom fries rendition, weapons of mass destruction and
JEEEEESUSSSS! Well it is not.
America is ONE Nation under god. Indivisible with freedom and justice for all. Not just christens, not just folks we like. Wake up when there done with them your next stupid...
Keeping people with out charging them is immoral, how can you thump your little good book and reconcile that fact.
Steve Puss..Being the patriot that you are, please go to your nearest USMC Recruiting station and sign up. Unless you have served then STFU.
As an American who was raised overseas, I now have excellent reason for being grateful that I was provided with an education far exceeding what is the apparent US norm. Not only did my instructors from various countries provide me with a somewhat more cosmopolitan perspective and the desire to think for myself, I was also taught American English grammar, punctuation, spelling and general sentence structure, skills apparently not pursued educationally in the United States (judging from a number of the comments here). The ability to communicate effectively proved beneficial during my voluntary combat tours in the US Armed Forces.
" I bet Steve is some religious nut who actually believes in a guy name jesus "
I hope you are intelligent to realize the detainess believe in a guy
name Muhammad and they would kill you in their country for talking
like that, so pssst your argument is completely naive and ignorant.
Obama loves terrorists? It's scary to think that someone actually thinks that....Steve. And some of the other comments are simply idiotic. What hole have you people been living in?
Ahh yes Science, first came the big bang, planet, water, life. Very sound evidence John. How is that not as far fetched as god creating the planet?
What do you expect from a bunch of twelve year olds?
Dan, thank you. I spent two years in Iraq and both times worked with detainment facilities. The prisioners DO NOT have access to the internet, its just like the author said, they over hear the guards discussions and pick up on things. wow people, reading in-between the lines a little bit too much?
Man some of you got anger management issues. I mean seriously has it come to this in America where insults replace the decorum of having a decent conversation? This article made me think as to how these guards aren't really paying attention to the environment around them. Myself being a former prison guard you have to watch what you say around prisoners whether they be from Iraq or here in the states. They can use what they hear around you as fodder against you and your partner and that right there is not what you want to do. A little more professionalism on their part can go a long way and save their life if need be.
Steve...gosh your brilliant....really just brilliant. I wish I could be so smart.
You Morons they don't have internet access learn to read they pick up on things the troops talk about! I repeat learn to read!
And if Bush & Chaney didn't walk away from Osama Bin Ladin (to go to Iraq) We would still be there
You're calling that guy out for not getting his "facts straight" in regards to Jesus walking on water. Since when is the bible factual? I doubt too many people actually believe the fairy tales of Jesus walking on water or Moses parting a giant body of water.
First Doug agrees that everything and anything is Obama's fault. Then he recants and says no. Make up your mind already doug, you seem really confused. Must be a liberal.
THE SAME WAY A SCUM BAG AMERICAN LIKE U HAVE IT.
Steve...gosh your brilliant....really just brilliant. I wish I could be so smart.
Maybe from your perspective, but its not OUR country its THEIR country and WE don't belong there. Why are we there? You and the rest of our country cant answer that. They are detainees because we have to keep our troops safe while at the same time preparing to leave and trying to limit any lingering ill will. You arent capable of looking long term, but your children and our children will be living with the consequences of this war for decades. many of the people killed in Iraq will only think one thing : the americans killed my mom, my dad, my brother etc., and they are going to come after us. ANYTHING we can do to minimize the damage we have done and foster good will is a PLUS
but keep lobbing stupid comments out there from your pretty high chair in safe america, thats real classy and shows that you know NOTHING
It would seem apparent that I have little right to expect much of anything from much of the unwashed, ignorant masses - but then I've always had high expectations for America and Americans. My bad!
Help! I've entered a battle zone.
Retreat!!!!!!
Revelations? Is that the book after Revelation? A condensed version perhaps? See www.innersting.blogspot.com for the answer.
Amazing...if you go through every comment here, it is appalling how rude and vicious the apparent right wing people are. Some highlights:
"nigger lovers, liberal scumbags"
"kill all detainees at Guantanamo...thanksgiving gift"
"uneducated, abnormal eaters and not clean...country is dirty"
"I hope you get cancer"
Absolutely solid showing of why no one with any intelligence listens to you, and why you are so hateful.
I do hope you are proud of turning a simple anecdote of sarcasm into a forum for your hatred.
That's exactly right longirons! The Bible, if written today, would be ridiculed, and the people promoting it would be institutionalized for treatment of such dilusion.
RP, are you kidding me? How can any red blooded American actually show sympathy for detainees, terrorists, or any enemy of your own country? I'm sure you think water boarding and using heavy metal music to break our enemies is inhumane. You've got to be kidding. Opinions are meaningless unless you are willing to either join the military or move to the middle east for a real dose of reality.
I vote for a ban on the word "wingnut" from this discussion thread.
JACK PUT THE FOLLOWING LETTERS BEHIND YOUR NAME A - S - S -
Yeah, but they are right on this one. Favre is an a hole and so is Wisconsins Fudge Packers. Hey there you go, tell them that one.
You are all a bunch of winny B!tches!
You know who could help solve this debate: Steele Manheim!
Couldn't have said it better myself. Good job eballz!
I think there are two Dougs....I'm not blaming Obama
So, rp. What brings you here?
Have you heard "it is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt." or "God made the Idiot for practice, and then He made the School Board."?(Both quotes courtesy of Mark Twain.)
I take it you are not on the School Board.
Another right wing moron! And by the way, putz, I am a moderate. I have some very conservative views like for example, I believe in the death penalty. Beginning to think the death penalty should be extended to the ridiculously stupid ... like you.
If we really wanted to torture these guys- wouldn't we force them to watch the Browns/Lions game this week?
Regardless, Iraqi detainees making Favre jokes is some pretty funny s***. Guess even accused terrorists have a sense of humor!
And before anyone jumps my bones about looking on detainees as humans, consider this. My father spent some of his WWII service as an MP, guarding German POWs. Guess what - those guys had a pretty good sense of humor too, according to Dad.
As much as I hate those who threaten American servicemen, the comments made in this thread about due process are exactly correct. Innocent until proven guilty, remember? If we abandon OUR principles we are worse than the terrorists - we will have seen the light and turned away from it, in order to protect it. Doesn't make much sense.
GEORGE BUSH CALLED, HE IS LQQKING FOR THE
WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, WITH DICK CHEANEY
AND OJ, THEY WILL BE BACK SOON.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
You white beggars only deserve to burn like the worthless shit you are
Jesus Christ was black.
C'mon people...
Leave the little knobby-heads alone. If they wish live their lives as fools so be it. If they feel the need to pray to a "prophet" 5 times a day (once OBVIOUSLY isn't enough), then let them. If it is a rapist and pillager they choose to worship, they're allowed. If they feel the only way to show devotion to the one they follow is to kill and destroy all of those who do not think and act as they do, allow them to be fools. If they shun education and choose to treat their women (mothers and daughters alike) as property, like dogsand livestock, stupidity should not discriminate.
A lot of people on here trash talking Jesus. But ask yourself.... How many people did Jesus kill in his lifetime? (.......nope. Not even that many.)
The same groups that say these guys are terrorists said there were WMD in Iraq. The term used was "slam dunk". They may be right, they may be wrong. It's something only a fool wouldn't think about before desiring to know for themselves.
There are those that learn from history (recent history too), those doomed to repeat it and then there are lemmings.
I would just like to thank everyone for the 20 minutes of entertainment you have supplied. I can't remember the last time I was so close to stupidity, ignorance, prejudice, and It may not be a stretch to use the words "mental retardation". Thanks again!
Why do they even bother to attack the US? Don't we do a good enough job killing each other? Oh yea, I forgot, the strategy was to get us to spend BILLIONS of dollars on nothing more than producing more death and hate around the world (not to mention recruiting more terrorists to the cause), while our own greed and deathwish slowly consumes the country. But hey what do Christians care? They got heaven going for'em.
Well guess what? It's late in the fourth quarter and even Jesus is asking for a Favre jersey just for good luck...
"Abnormal eaters", "unclean", "Evolution is stupid"...
I call this revolutionary, highly evolved, modern ignorance.
I see the Rush Limbaugh crowd has invaded the comments section....or maybe it's Dick Cheney typing all of these right-wing nut job replies....since he has nothing better to do...LOL.
Do no one see the humor is this story? I think it is one of the funniest things I have read in a long time.
I'm not blaming Obama either. I was pointing out the stupidity of Steve's comment that the fact that detainees are making Favre jokes is somehow Obama's fault.
DW- Are you serious about due process? Since when does due process extend to "enemies of the USA?" Will Americans get the same due process if captured by the enemy? Please entertain me on how we are worse than the terrorists if we abandon our principles?
If anyone should be prepared for warm weather, it is you so-called Christians.
I love your belief in an invisible God who believes in slavery, and who says that children who are not properly respectful of their parents should be stoned to death. You save human body parts(from Saints) and worship with out one iota of evidence that there is any God, much less a Christian one.I see suffering beyond words and hear about a loving God. Yeah, sure.
Your belief in hell is just a reflection of your fear of not measuring up to standards that no one can agree upon. You kill in the name of your religion despite the admonition that "Thou shall not kill". In recorded history there have been almost 10,000 different religions/cults each believing that they alone know the "truth" What gall!
If there is any "truth" it is that man created God, not the other way around.
This is the most ridiculous "SPORTS" comment page I have ever seen.
I think the lot should lose threre heads that is all.
Wow. I had to go back to the top of the article and check but sure enough this was a sports page article.
I guess it goes to show that it true Americans are never going to like each other again. We cannot even talk about a sports page article without the hatred spewing.
U are all out of your mind
I thought this article was hilarious. And then I started reading the comments and my good mood rapidly vanished.
Still, loved the article!!!
For all the anti-Jesus etc. Whats todays date? And you write down the date from his time of birth everyday. How can one man make the entire world go by his birth? Ironic huh?
Have any of the people who completely shat on The Bible and the people who extolled its truth to no end just tried to look at it metaphorically in order that they might learn how to live a virtuous life devoted toward truth and good? And maybe even considered that The Bible is not the only one but one of very many texts that can be looked at in this way and can be learned from?
Judging by many of you wishing cancer upon others, as well as a lot of people's complete self assurance that "What I think is right and these people are dumb asses", I'm guessing the answer to those questions is no.
Hahaha! If I didn't know any better, I'd say you are the *REAL* Sarah Palin. You seem to channel her views pretty well.
I agree.
Ummm... so why does every discussion have to turn into hateful bashing? Thanks Bob and Steve for wearing your prejudices on your sleeves and starting this forum off on the absolute wrong foot, and thanks to everyone else for semi-validating them by taking their bait.
So many better things to discuss about this article: For one it is HILARIOUS. Detainees are trying to taunt their jailors with comments about BRETT FAVRE!
Or how about what an odd slice-of-life-out-of-the-ordinary this is; it's the kind of thing no one would normally even consider wondering about.
Or you could even stop to think about what this says of the inmates' psyches: How they hold onto any little bit they can in trying to gain some edge over their captors. Does it speak to their view of all Americans that they think sports jabs are good insults or is it merely opportunism because of the guards' obvious displays?
Or what about the response you might come up with if you were a guard being taunted with a Brett Favre joke?
So many more appropriate things to discuss here...
eballz - - and all that vitriol because they are good Christians and God is on their side. For all you Biblical literalists . . . with whom did the children of Adam and Eve mate to create us (eww)? If God created Adam, and then took a rib from him to create Eve - is cloning then not God's invention? When you go to work or shopping next Sunday, or take the Lord's name in vain - are you any less sinful than the people you condemn in God's name?
To grumps, RJ Randall, and Texas Thunder:
You all are right. I apologize for my role in all of this. I'm out.
If this site was competent enough to have a "report this post" option, about half these ramblings would be gone by now.
What started out as a interesting story quickly turned ugly when so many fearless Internet Warriors came out.
we live in the land of the free. they do not. they are terrorists, you jackass
Oh look, someone that can actually READ. Immediately, we go after Obama when this has nothing to do with Obama. You ungrateful jackass will use any means necessary to bitch about the President.
Morons. Republican'ts. More like Republicapansies.
I suppose that believing the Khans were leftists makes me somewhat of a right-winger. Still, to characterize all who are right (No accident that "right" is the term used to label us/them.) as being "rude and vicious" people would seem to be as hatefully sweeping as that which you claim to decry. Is such an intelligent means of pigeonholing people that of which leftists are proud, or is that just your own character deficiency? (BTW, thank you for not misspelling our language.)
The Don't have Internet access. You really should try to read AND comprehend.
You seem to forge your country attacked theirs unprovoked and are an occupying force.
Without due process, how do we know if they ARE "enemies of the USA", or some poor fools that were in the wrong place at the wrong time? You know, you may be right - why bother with detaining them? Let's just shoot everyone who we even SUSPECT of actions against our troops. Bullets are cheaper than camps, after all....
And if I have to explain how we're worse than the terrorists if we abandon our principles, clearly civics classes were wasted on you. We're Americans. We HAVE principles, and most of the time we at least pretend to live by them, which is more than can be said for the TRUE terrorist types. It doesn't matter what they do to captured Americans - we can't control their actions, and God or Jesus or Allah or karma or whatever will take care of that. We CAN control OUR actions, and if we abandon the core principles upon which our country was founded than we disgrace the legacy of our Founding Fathers and every single man and woman that put on the uniforms of service to our country.
We're supposed to be BETTER than they are, Sarah. THAT'S why we're worse than the terrorists if we abandon our principles. If we do, we're not only animals, we're hypocrites.
FYI, the "entire world" doesn't. There are a number of different calendars in use around the world. Please get an education before commenting so ignorantly.
Bob - First of all, even Condi Rice admits that there are innocent men being held at Gitmo. Secondly, nowhere in the article does it say that the prisoners have internet access. Are you really that daft?
I hope you all get double cancer, and erectile dysfunction too!
So there!
I have news for you. The first person wishing cancer on someone was not someone who was disdaining the bible. And the statement "What I think is right and these people are dumb asses" pretty much applies to you and the other Bible thumpers.
Obama lied and the economy died. Of course Obama is saying he might not run for a second term, because the tool already knows he can't win
As someone who has actually served in Iraq, I think it would be wise for many of you to try and obtain some facts before you go shooting your mouth off about situations YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!! First of all, to assume that all of these guys are being tortured during their detainment is an absolute joke, not to mention a slap in the face to all of the men and women who serve our country honorably. I can assure that almost every one of these scumbags has been detained for a reason. When we were tasked with arresting some of these fanatics, we did it because they were lobbing mortar shells into our convoys and firing RPG's at our armored personnel carriers. THEY WERE NOT IN THEIR YARD PLANTING FLOWERS PEOPLE!! Before some of you decide to insult me and countless others who serve our country, go there for yourself and put your own life on the line before you start making friends with these piles of sh*t. Last I checked, we are all on the same side. Instead of insulting one another and calling each other names, lets get on the same page. I am damn proud to be an American and I serve my country honorably as well!
Amazing...the detainees should all die, even though many are there because their neighbors turned them in as terrorists in order to claim a reward. I'm not saying that none are terrorists, hell, there may be another McVeigh in there among them; however, not all of them are bad guys and to state otherwise displays a huge amount of ignorance and helps to explain why Americans are thought of the way they are by others around the world (although several of you geniuses probably don't care). We are supposed to believe in certain credos as Americans, but I don't think that among them are any that speak of us as better than anybody else just because we happened to be born here. Geez.
As a veteran I am disgusted to think that I served in order to protect your right to put your lack of intelligence on display.
As stated before, though, the funny thing is that this whole thing was provoked because of a story meant to entertain and some idiot assumed that the prisoners in the story had Internet access. Amazing. Small wonder Sarah is such a hero to you folks...
RJ and all vets check this out. I listen to it everyday. I love it!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a0ORdQU HOORAH!!!
I'm afraid, Threat-Level. Very afraid.
I honor your service and the service of everyone who served in our military. For you to assume that those who are detained are all innocent and all guilty is "an absolute joke". For you to suggest that anyone disagreeing with your views is "a slap in the face to all the men and woman who serve our country honorably" is intellectually dishonest and a cheap shot. I suggest you obtain some facts before running your mouth off. You don't speak for the entire military, and you have not observed the treatment of everyone detained during this war.
My show is going off the air people!!! Doesn't anyone care?
I'm afraid that you are all missing the very serious point here and that is that if we read between the lines, Vikings fans are Terrorists.
I think you misunderstood me. I am not a "Bible Thumper". I think it's absurd to take The Bible literally. However, I used the phrase "What I think is right and these people are dumb asses" to describe the two ends of the spectrum: there are those who blindly trust everything in The Bible (or whatever text one might live one's life by) and offer no serious thought as to what that text might be telling them, i.e. many people will take a text and shape its message to fit what they desire from it. This is a poor approach and will not bring someone to anything resembling truth and virtue in life. On the other hand, people that automatically dismiss a text like The Bible because there are a great amount of absurdities in it are themselves being foolish: if one applies rational questioning to something like The Bible, many lessons or notions on how to live can be gained, and these things would at the very least inspire thought and more questioning in a person, which I think we can agree is a good thing.
It is, I think, irrelevant who first wished cancer upon another. It is wrong regardless. And if what you say is so, that is was a "Bible thumper" who first did this, well, then that person has very little understanding of The Bible, in my view.
Wow. So do terrorists love the Vikings? cause if that's true, then i gotta change my line up on my fantasy team.
+1 (makes explosion noises)
Oprah, the actual question SHOULD be: "Why would anyone care?"
I'm not gonna lie, I laughed when I read this. Who would have thought the Iraqi detainees had a sense of humor? Think about it, it's almost like a buddy giving you crap for the team you root for. Now, they could be trying to provoke a violent response, or they could just be your typical asshole and just laughing at the troops' expense. Crafty buggers, aren't they?
Hey, "This Guy" - I hadn't even noticed...I guess that's why they have horns on their helmets! They are of the devil! Everyone be afraid...be very afraid!
John, I was always taught to respect and never treat other people's opinions as stupid but you are just about to make me break that instruction I have very much adhered to. Based on what, besides your stupidity, you are claiming the earth existed 4.5 Billion years ago? Claiming to believe in Science does not make you look any less intelligent than you truly are. As a matter of fact, you seem to be typing the most significant things on your brain in here for the sake of getting some attention. Before you add this kind of nonsense in a public forum again, consider first one the following:
1)Provide structure, coherance and even evidence to support your claim
2)Add a disclaimer mentioning this comes from an empty brain
3)Add (LOL) after each line so onlookers may know you are just being funny
+1.
I thought I would secretly post this on a public forum. Please do not let anyone knw that I am still alive! In case you're wondering...McCuley and I are doing fine.
Just referring to the posts here, Drawer22. You speak of being well educated, yet you assume I was pigeonholing ALL right wing people.
"...read all of the comments HERE....APPARENT right-wing...."
apparent: clearly visible or understood; obvious
No character deficiency here, and pigeonholing is not a position myself, a moderate, is proud of...
"Watching" a catfight in which no one actually gets hurt is most amusing. Thanks for the free entertainment! Color me gone, though. I can only laugh so long at idiocy and ignorance.
Good lord you are all a bunch of idiots. Sitting around in your pajamas responding to each other with all that hate a venom on both sides. Good grief I wish you would all just... Whoops got a little caught up in the moment there......
I don't speak for all of the military, Mark!! Last I checked, I never said I did! I can speak for what I have seen and I can also tell you that some of these idiots who are responsible for the mistreatment of these detainees REPRESENT AN EXTREMELY SMALL PERCENTAGE of our men and women in uniform. And yes it is a slap in my face. When people call our military "the imperialists" and "torture artists," it is taking a shot at EVERYONE IN A UNIFORM.
And to say that everyone of those detainees is guilty is hardly what I said. If you actually read what I said, I said "almost every one of these scumbags has been detained for a reason." MANY OF THEM ARE ARRESTED IN THE ACT, FIRING ON OUR TROOPS ON PATROLS, OR HAVE BEEN TURNED IN BY MEMBERS OF THEIR OWN VILLAGES FOR ACTS OF TERRORISM!!!!!
I highly doubt you have served your country. So until some of your friends die fighting these bastards, do us all a favor and sign up to go over there before you make any comments about what is going on. It's an "absolute joke" according to you that all of these guys have been detained for a reason. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT I'M SURE. You need to learn how to comprehend what you read.
There are plenty of people in my unit who disagree with every point of view I have. That doesn't bother me at all. We are all entitled to our opinions. When ignorant people call our military personnel "barbarians" and "imperialists," I take issue with that. It has nothing to do with them disagreeing with my point of view. Do us all a favor and take a trip over there before you "run your mouth off!" I've been on two tours to Iraq. It was absolutely horrible both times, and I pray I never have to go back again. Until you do it for yourself, don't come at me with that jibberish!
Dear Human Beings....please stop slandering us pigeons. We are far more superior than any other species. We can fly at 35+ MPH. As a defense mechanism, while flying at top speed we can bank at a 45 degree angle. No other bird can do this. Also, have yoyu ever seen a baby pigeon? I think not.
LOL...Just ran across this comment. Love it when so-called Christians become judge, jury, and executioner when Jesus specifically tells people not to judge others. Turning the other cheek? Oops...That went out the window too. Let's not even start on that pesky being our "brother's keeper", feeding the poor, and the Sermon on the Mount stuff. Because after all, Jesus would vote for war and against healthcare, right?
Seems that Jesus is a true, blue, American patriot according to Florida. That's the clean shaven, nice smelling, blond Jesus known to all in the Midwest...Not the unwashed, radical, Socialist Jew that he actually was.
LOL...Hilarious.
The most intelligent paragraph I read on this site! The rest of you go back to school.
Liberal Wingnuts!!!! Self-righteous b@st@rds!!! Do you know that "1984" is about liberal premadonnas that conspired to take over the government to give the people direction in their lives, to share the progressive spirit, and that the purpose of government is to help the people in their daily lives. Sounds familiar... "universal healthcare", "let's not alienate the people who wants to kill us", "take state governance away, federal gov't can do better", and what ever socialist crap you can think of... somehow it morphs to "do what the government tells you to do, because we know that it is right for you." (ahhhh, the word "right", so many uses, so many perspectives, am I right?)
... I wish that mac lady would show up and break that screen (referring to the 1984 Apple commercial).
... Bottomline, there is an agenda here. We'll wake up tomorrow and not even realize that we are living in a "1984" world, thank you Presid#nt 0b@m@, Congresswoman Pelosi, Senator Reid, ACORN, and unions, it's surely a "new world" to remember....hmmm, maybe not.
Great. Yet another overreaching stereotype of everybody who didn't vote for President Obama. Give me a break.
I wonder if terroists crumble or fold? Personally, I do a sort of crumble/fold thing. This provides enough area for optimal wiping.
(KNEW I should have signed out immediately!) Apologies, eballz, for having made the logical assumption that "...apparent right-wing..." referred to right-wing. You are quite right to note that a person with my education, intelligence and experience should easily discern the difference.
Really. You must be super intelligent!
The real lesson here is about operational security. Wisconsin ARNG...take it from a old Soldier...Operational Security is important and now the Iraqi detainees are going to be in your heads until you rotate back home.
Be safe over there!
BTW, this Vikes fan was cheering for the Pack during the Packers/Cowboys game....I reeeeeaaaaaaally hate the Cowboys....
Damn, the detainees are Democrats! Who would ever have believed that? Maybe the US needs the UN to come in and determine if the terrorists are really Democrats! It sure looks like it ... and vice-versa!
Some of them are quite crafty. Some of them are kinda slow. As with any large group of people you are going to have some winners and some losers.
Anyways, these guys would often pretend to not know English to listen in to the Soldiers conversation. I would know because I worked with the 'tainers in Iraq unfortunately.
Some were innocent and some were real evil men. Some were decent people and some you couldn't turn your back on. You just had to treat all of them the same regardless of why they were in there. That was our philosophy.
Wisconsin ARNG: this should be a wake up call to watch what you say over there because THEY ARE ALWAYS LISTENING to everything you say.
A lot of you lefties on here are incredible. You piss and moan that someone should dare to have an opinion other than your own, yet you are the first to complain when someone dares to step on the "freedom" of the prisoners. (btw idiots, the due process of law does not apply in a warzone, especially against enemy troops). Shouldn't you be off figuring new ways to raise taxes and addict people to welfare? oh wait, thats what the green movement is, aint it?
As a matter of fact, she is right. I am not guessing, I was in the Middle East a long time ago. The stench from the open sewer system was oppressing and the bus driver we were assigned to take us back and forth to work had to have his head shaved at least once because of lice. When you whine about the prisoners rights let me remind you of what happened to Alan Berg. I'll bet he really enjoyed having his head cut off and it being broadcast worldwide. Do you ever think about his rights? I thought not.
As for the person who wrote later about the BS of us being the aggressor, tell that to those who were in the WTC on 09/11/01! Oh wait, about 3,000 of them are DEAD, you clown. That kind of forgetfulness make me want to vomit! As for myself, I will never forget!
I love it man. If anyone disagrees with you they are automatically right-wingers. There are idiots on both sides of the government abd your smug sense of entitlement is why there is no bi-partisanship. People like you are the biggest threat to our country because as long as government is a competition fueled by hate nothing will ever get done. So get back to your talk radio and MSNBC and keep hating everyone who deosn't share your ideals.
I served 10 months in the Camp Cropper Detainment facility with the NJ Army National Gaurd and it's funny because we were relieved by this very Wisconsin unit. Anyway, about the detainees..many of them are not convicted of any crimes yet. Many of them are responsible for rape, torture, extortion...mass murder..attacking and killing coalition forces. It's not soldier's job to judge them. Most of the time we don't know either way so we all have to treat them the same. You wanna hear about Cropper though? You could be convicted for severely violent crimes as a detainee at Cropper..and if you get sick a medic will rush to you. They will bring you in for exams and treat you. They will give you percocet, prosthetics and eye glasses. Your tax dollars give people that want nothing more than America to falter new teeth. You also give them, at Camp Cropper, multiple multi million dollar megatrons so that detainees can watch soccer and The Mask. If a soldier or broke I hope it's something Ibuprofen can cure because that's all your getting. Anyway, they don't have access to the internet, but every detainee has the ability to enroll in English, Arabic, Writing, Carpenty, Sewing, Art or Computer class. lol. And people are getting mad because Gitmo even EXISTS? Theres alot of people that have alot to say and really don't know shit in this country. That is our problem. We need Patton back.
Actually, you nailed it on the head. I thought it was hilarious as well. The thing that bothers me is how a funny story can be twisted unrecognizable by both extreme ends of the spectrum.
Holy leaping lizards people! Do any of you take the time to hear yourselves before posting those thoughts onto these forums?
As a veteran who served his country for 22 years all I can say is
God Help Us All!
I guess I should have expected nothing of real value off an NBC message board!
Who knew?
This is funny, this John fellow, undoubtedly named in some way after the Biblical John, is a complete idiot! He knows nothing about everything and he won't hesitate to let everybody know it either.
roflma. so true and you were back in the 30's. it only got better!!
C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!
you sick human being you need prayer
Actually he's doing the right thing. Instead of creating new terrorists in Iraq and neglecting Afghanistan we're killing terrorists in Pakistan. You are a moron in the truest sense of the word. Find the nearest tailpipe and suck on it.
You sir are a douche bag. Screw your pseudo intellectual verbiage. You obviously have nothing invested in those words you spout with such patriotic fervor. I imagine that if your son or daughter was ducking bullets in the middle east or you had lost a loved one in the senseless carnage that was 9/11 you might think twice before speaking with such reckless abandon. How naive and foolhardy of you to assuming that just because charges have not been brought against these monsters, that they are not guilty as sin. They are extremist Muslims. They profess to be such. It is simply difficult to build a case when you are dealing with military personnel (who are not police and are busy FIGHTING A WAR) gathering the evidence and what evidence is gathered is often deemed classified (for good reason) If this were not the case, would Obama not have already closed Guantanamo? It was been a black eye to his professed agenda.
How else are they going to play fantasy football?
Steve
You are one stupid ass mother fucker
Its people like Eagles Fan and Pathetic who are right on in this conversation. No one hear has experience like Eagles Fan does and can't comment either way if they dont. Its sad that we cant celebrate our freedoms in this country and celebrate those who have fought and died for every inch against our enemies. The people we are talking about in these foreign countries have been fighitning fights that date 1000's of years. I wonder what Mariann Pepitone and rp what have said at the time of the CRUSADES when we were fighting the same fight. I assure you it is still the same fight to what we like to call today EXTREMISTS and it should be the same fight to us!!! This fight is not thousands of miles away like soooo many people think. This fight is in our backyards i.e. 9/11/, FT. HOOD. This fight is going to get worse in our backyard unless we cut it off at the head or at the source where it lies. We should try to celebrate in the streets our freedoms and soldiers just like what was done in WWII when we stopped naked aggression toward our way of life!!!
John, With all due respect to your opinion about who Jesus was/is. Myself being one of those dummies that belive Jesus hook line and sinker. If you turn out to be correct and when a person dies he just dosn't exist in any form anymore, well then i haven't missed out on anything. Buttttttt, if Jesus turns out to be the way the truth and the life, and the only way to God. As he declared. Then things won't work out to well for you and all those others with that mind set. I loose nothing for trusting in Christ dying for my sins. You speek as if Christ was a mythical characature. The Roman gov't has volumes of information recorded about Christ that collaberates the words and actions of Christ. They recorded it for purposes of building a leagle case against him. It just so happened that the things he (Jesus)said and did angered the Roman and Jewish elite leadership as with you. But for myself and many others, What he said and done that we have accepted brings forth eternal life. Please reconsider your position in Gods economy. May God Shed His Grace on you.
This comment section is a cesspool.
Boy Danno99, you sound like a real Einstien (genius dumb-ass). I hope they keep you away from small children!
All these comments are like children on the playground going Nanny Nanny Boo Boo ... grow up and provide adult comments that show at least some form of intelligence ... name calling and purely prejudicial comments like these that show your ignorance only strengthen the resolve of those that have been detained ... no wonder they believe that a lot of Americans are childish and stupid!
This is an absolutely horrendous article. Making light of TORTURE? I realize Mr. Chandler is being facetious, but he is also, and I don't meant to sound like Carrie Prejean, being completely inappropriate. Could you imagine an article saying "Hey, remember when the Armenians/Rwandans/Jews/Romanis/Bosnians/Native Americans were subject to a genocide? Boy, that was just kid's playing. Brett Favre just SLAUGHTERED everyone in Green Bay! Now THAT's suffering!" Both are awful and in bad taste.
To Rick Chandler's editors: I hope you reprimand Mr. Chandler for his dehumanizing of the Iraqi people, and for his complete insensitivity to real people's actual suffering. I'm not a guy without a sense of humor. I can take a joke. But this was awful. Yes, it was racist. I understand the freedom of speech, but the speech here only promotes hate, as evidenced by many of the other comments on this thread. Suspend him for some time without pay, and contribute his salary from that time to an organization that helps rehabilitate those who have suffered actual torture.
David, you suck.
"Alan Berg" really, Alan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Berg
Iam a vetran of viet nam and feel very strong about my countries
enemies,i say send them to paradise to be cared for by 20 virgins
ie:a bar of soap, a bath, and finally a bullet.
Good luck John...but you dont need luck you have gods forgiveness
they don't have access to internet.. it's gossip after the compound got decorated.. i work on the compound with these guys. i don't know why it said in there they had internet access.. thats retarded.
Hey cool looking blog but it's a bit weird looking in my K-meleon browser. Looks great otherwise!
TORTURE,TORTURE,YOU,RE TALKING TORTURE,
You guys need to calm down.
Get over yourself, Sister Mary rp! We can send them to you for their trials. You can even be their lawyer.
And so at the end of 120 notes its redneck scumbags 46 and elitist snobs 74. Let's break now for a word from our sponsor, exLax, the product that can take the simplest little funny story and make a big pile of name calling crap. IT's becoming a real pain in the ass to read any story with comments attached. Somehow, it always comes down to a Bush - Obama debate.
Who gives a rat. I thought it was just a funny story. Not a political statement.
Steve you knuckle-dragging knucklehead. Read the article. READ it if you can without extrapolating it into an indictment of Obama. Note to Rob: it's not always a Bush-Obama debate-usually Bill Clinton is somehow drawn into the mix as well.
dimwit
Wow. I suppose that all of you preaching death, destruction, cancer, bombing, etc. consider yourself to be 'Christians"???
Seriously, Steve?
Hail Fellow, Well Met Brutha G. you said it all,these guys need to take a reading tour of the documents that made this country what it is,uh (they will probably need a reader to accompany them.)
The article was about sports, and some humor! Lighten up, people! If you want to make comments about Iraq, Afghanistan, or any location where the troops are, you had better get yourself over here to see what it's really like- don't make comments about things that you know nothing about, especially when your opinion is only based on the press (because we know they would never lie, or slant a story, or stretch the facts). Having said that, The story was about sports, told with a sense of humor!!! Stepping off my soapbox now.
arrogant statements like yours, which seizes this opportunity to get on a soap box re religion, are sad. get over yourself. and if you believe in god you better believe that hes gonna be pissed that youre deciding for him whos going to hell and whos not.